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Who is George Geftakys and "The assembly"

Postby camac » Fri Nov 04, 2005 9:51 am

Is this a branch of the Plymouth Brethren?

http://www.geftakysassembly.com/Reflect ... tm#contact

Our History

Back in the late 1960's, we (Steve and Margaret) began to follow George Geftakys (with his wife Betty) as he preached at various "overcomer" groups in Southern California. These groups were influenced by the teachings of the Plymouth Brethren, T. Austin Sparks, Bahkt Singh, and Watchman Nee.

Within a year a group of believers formed in Fullerton, California to exemplify the New Testament "pattern" for worship and ministry. The gathering was called the "assembly". Over time a number of such gatherings were raised up across the country, as well as in Canada and abroad.

Towards the end of the 1980's our son, a student at UCLA, began to question George's teaching on salvation after reading the writings of many early Reformers such as Martin Luther and John Owen. After several encounters with George in which he raised his concerns and sought dialogue, he was slandered and excommunicated from the very assembly in which he had grown up.

This event, along with a litany of other heart-rending stories told by those driven out from the assemblies in years past, raised such a loud alarm in our hearts that we left George's ministry in the spring of 1990. We realized that the cancer of emotional abuse, legalism, and authoritarianism was in an advanced stage of development throughout the assemblies.
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Postby camac » Fri Nov 04, 2005 9:52 am

Here is their discussion forum:

http://www.assemblyboard.com/index.php
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Postby bjh » Wed Nov 08, 2006 7:31 pm

You never received a response on this. My answer is "probably yes and no". Very similar, but unrelated. The history only goes back to Brother George Geftakys who started a church and patterned it after the PB's.

I was never officially involved with them... just an outsider looking in. They ran a Wednesday Noon Bible Study at a local university. I went to a few of those and some of their other social gatherings.

As to the history, look at the sites you list. They seem to be pretty accurate, from what I know.
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Postby Meg_60 » Sat Nov 11, 2006 7:37 pm

"bjh" is correct, the Assemblies of George Geftakys were never associated with the Plymouth Brethren. George and Betty Geftakys fellowshipped with the Brethren in southern California for about 15 years. He was accepted as a Bible teacher in the Goodyear, Pomona, and Grace Bible chapels, but was never allowed to be an elder because he was so ovebearing. In 1971 he finally left the Brethren to start his own thing. This was when the Jesus movement was flourishing, so it didn't seem odd at the time.

My husband and I had been attending Westmoreland Chapel in Los Angeles, which was linked to T. Austin-Sparks' ministry, Honor Oak, an offshoot of the Keswick Conferences. When George came along, his Plymouth Brethren ideas and language were very familiar. To our regret, we took up with him and helped him build his movement. We now see that George was a charismatic sociopathic narcissist, who "spoke the language of Canaan" but didn't really care about it. In other words, he was a charlatan. What he was after was prestige, power, money and sex.

The movement he crafted was a cult in the sociological sense of the term. The doctrine was orthodox in many respects, but was skewed to such an extreme on sanctification that justification was obscured. Externally, to someone visiting on a Sunday morning, the groups looked like lively, flourishing Plymouth Brethren meetings--headcoverings, no musical instruments, spontaneous prayer, the Lord's table and open ministry. Most of the people were incredibly sincere and outgoing.

What was not immediately obvious was the extent of control over people's lives, the pressures to perform and conform, the elitist leadership hierarchy, the totalism of the group that demanded almost every hour of every day that wasn't required by employment, and the elitist attitude toward other churches, to name a few of the negative characteristics of the Assemblies.

The movement fell apart in early 2003 when adultery and domestic violence came to light. Most of the 45+ Assemblies disbanded within a year; there are about 15 that are continuing. These surviving groups are sticking to the principles of "simplicity of gathering," which might be admirable, except that the leaders were trained in George's toxic ways and appear to be still under the effects of his false teaching.

The spiritual fallout in people's lives has been horrendous. My husband and I maintain a website to provide resources for encouragement and recovery, http://www.geftakysassembly.com/.It also archives documents on the history of the group, and the details of how it imploded, as well as personal stories of folks who left, and updates on the current status of the remaining Assemblies.

May our experiene serve as a warning, that others may not fall into a similar trap.

Sincerely in Christ,

Margaret I.
Editor, [url]geftakysassembly.com[/url]
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Postby bjh » Sun Nov 12, 2006 12:06 am

Margaret I,

Thanks for your post. I heard of some of what had happened from Steve Harris who kept in contact with many from the St. Louis gathering, and then read the fuller account on your site. Good to see you on here. May the Lord bless your ministry.

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Postby ThatWikkidPerson » Sun Nov 12, 2006 8:50 am

Hmm. In our group, when adultery and domestic abuse comes to light, it tends to get covered up, and nothing changes. The feeling of "other places are wrong/we are right" is so strong that, even when all evidence points to us having a problem, people WANT "us" to be right, so they pretend we are.
We have only one Truth and one Reality...let's make the most of them.
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Postby Meg_60 » Sat Nov 18, 2006 12:08 am

Wikkid--

Yes, it was exactly the same in our group for years, thanks to the closed system and the information control. But when the daughter in the domestic violence home wrote the whole, long, shocking story, naming names and giving dates and places, and a brave soul put up a website and posted it, then the light began to pour in on the mess. A bulletin board was put up at the same time, so everyone could comment, and add further facts. In our group, it was mainly the leadership that had a vested interest in wanting us to be "right." When the ordinary people heard about the rot at the root, they wanted an accounting and a housecleaning. As the internet put mounting pressure on the leadership, they were forced to finally take action. The whole saga is still on our website under "Final Weeks."

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